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Hi, everyone from New York Magazine in the Box Media Podcast Network.

This is on with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher.

One of the simplest things someone can do to live longer and be healthier is to have

connections with other people. This is clear, not just with chatbots, but actual human beings.

This is something we talked about a lot in the series I did for CNN. Kara Swisher wants to live forever,

and it was a single most important thing people can do, which is interactions with people,

with actual people.

And the deleterious effects of things like chatboths, which are frictionless and sycophantic,

they are not good for your health, no matter what people tell you.

It is not the way to solve loneliness in any way, unless done in conjunction,

being with more human beings, which are the most important thing

for everyone's health. The idea of connection has come up again and again in my reporting,

as I said about longevity and aging, and it's the focus of this episode of Hacking Longevity series

here on the podcast. Coming up later, we'll talk to one of my favorite science writers, Michael

Paulin, about the mysteries of consciousness. He's been writing about this for a long time. We'll discuss what he

learned about finding connection, not just to others, but to the much wider world. When he sat

out to understand what it even means to be conscious, it's actually a big topic. But we'll start

with the connective power of music and its role in

longevity. Music and sound, really. The science here is super interesting. I'm excited to talk

about it with AZA AOLSA. He's an artist and psychiatrist who runs a lab at Yale University that

studies how sound affects the body and mind. It's something we also did in the series of Scott and I went to a

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