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And I'm Anna Maria Sayer. Anna, did you see this past week that U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris

made a trip to Central America as part of her efforts as part of her job now to deal with a large number of immigrants who are leaving the Central America and coming to the U.S.

Yeah, that was a, I must say, a surprising move on her part. I don't think a lot of us were expecting that.

And a complicated choice, to say the least.

The whole situation is complicated.

There are a lot of moving pieces, a lot of factors that would cause people to want to leave

their homes and come to another place just seeking economic opportunity, you know?

Oh, 100%.

I mean, I think you and I know a lot of us in the Latino community know it's about a lot more than just whether you want to stay or whether you want to go. It's complicated. And then people have ties to their home and don't necessarily want to leave. And I think that we could do an entire episode just about this probably do you agree

several episodes a whole series a whole new show actually but for this episode in particular

we are talking about something kind of tangentially related not about Guatemala not about Kamala Harris we're actually talking about something kind of tangentially related, not about Guatemala, not about Kamala Harris.

We're actually talking about people who are at home in Honduras, another Central American country,

and who are at home trying to keep that cultural community spark alive, cultivate community at home.

So we talked to Arellio Martinez. Oh my God, super cool guy, right?

Yes, very super cool guy. He is a part of the Garifuna community, which is an

Afro-descended community from the eastern part of Honduras, Belize, Guatemala.

There's a long story that involves history going back to the 18th century coming to that part of Honduras, Belize, Guatemala. There's a long story that involves history going back to

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