Mushrooms and More with Katherine MacLean
Synchronicity with Noah Lampert
Noah Lampert
4.8 • 766 Ratings
🗓️ 18 April 2019
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
Psychedelic research scientist, Katherine MacLean, stops by Synchronicity to discuss the origins of modern psychedelic mushrooms, the mushroom industrial complex and a whole lore more.
Katherine MacLean is a research scientist with expertise in studying the effects of mindfulness meditation and psychedelics. At Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, she conducted legal clinical trials of psilocybin, the primary chemical found in "magic mushrooms". In 2015, she co-founded and was the first director of the Psychedelic Education and Continuing Care Program in New York (www.psychedelicprogram.com), where she led training workshops and monthly integration groups focused on increasing awareness and reducing risks of psychedelic use. She's helped to bring medical and humanitarian aid to remote Himalayan villages, as well as create sanctuary spaces for psychedelic support at large outdoor festivals.
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| 0:00.0 | This is synchronicity. |
| 0:15.0 | This is synchronicity. |
| 0:19.0 | This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. |
| 0:21.6 | This is synchronicity. This is synchronicity. |
| 0:25.6 | This is synchronicity. |
| 0:27.6 | This is synchronicity. Welcome to Syncriticity. |
| 0:48.8 | My guest this week is Catherine McLean. |
| 0:52.1 | Catherine is a psychedelic research scientist, which is really a research scientist, |
| 1:00.0 | who was part of the Johns Hopkins clinical studies on psilocybin, which you will hear about |
| 1:06.8 | in this episode, especially some of the things you might not think about came out of that, |
| 1:11.8 | but the direct experience she had administering and watching this process. But also, |
| 1:18.6 | more than just being a research scientist, she is someone who is avidly and keenly tuned in to |
| 1:25.0 | psychedelics and mushrooms and not just their impact on people's consciousness, |
| 1:30.8 | but how it fits into the broader cultural paradigm, if you will. |
| 1:36.7 | Basically, Catherine knows a lot about this stuff and sees behind the scenes of kind of what is emerging or what is able to emerge from |
| 1:47.8 | the current narratives that are going on with psychedelics, right? We have a lot of things going on. |
| 1:52.1 | So one of the things we get into in this episode, because I was bringing it up, is the semi-parallels |
| 1:59.2 | between the cannabis industry and what would theoretically be the |
| 2:04.9 | psychedelic industry, right? It's not legalized. They're doing small clinical studies right now, |
| 2:10.5 | which is already relatively different than cannabis, right? Most of the clinical studies that are being done about cannabis now |
| 2:19.9 | are being done after the fact it's been legalized both medically and recreationally. There |
| 2:24.2 | wasn't a tremendous amount of data before that. But psychedelics, there's a much more kind of |
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