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Today, Explained

Mushroom magic

Today, Explained

Vox

News, Daily News, Politics

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2019

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Denver and Oakland have become the first US cities to effectively decriminalize magic mushrooms. Michael Pollan, author of “How to Change Your Mind,” explains how taking a trip could help treat depression. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let me describe the first psilocybin trip I had.

0:39.3

I made a tea and I was at my home in New England. I walked through my garden and at the peak of

0:47.6

the experience I felt that consciousness, subjectivity, was spread over all the species that I encountered.

1:00.8

In other words, all the plants seemed to be conscious in some ways to have a point of view.

1:05.6

The leaves were returning my gaze. I walked through the garden and made my way to a little

1:12.5

building that I built where I write. And there are two trees that frame the view. This very

1:17.6

elegant white oak and this kind of stumpy white ash. And I realized for the first time that these

1:24.8

trees were my parents. The white ash was my father and the white oak was my mother. And it was like,

1:34.5

why didn't you ever know that before? I had this kind of almost ecstatic passion through the garden.

1:40.0

It never looked more beautiful. It never been more alive. And it had this sense of being animated.

1:45.7

You know, we're normally the subject observing objects. But here we were all subjects. I was being

1:57.4

observed as much as I was observing. It's a hard thing to describe to someone who hasn't had

2:02.8

the experience. And we tend to go right to this place of hallucination where we're having a complete

2:08.2

visual fantasy. Psychedelics are not full-blown hallucinations. I mean, I knew where I was. I knew what I

2:17.0

was looking at. But what I was looking at had completely changed in its affect and its weight and its

2:23.0

meaning. Michael Pollan, son of trees, author of How to Change Your Mind, a book that's all about

2:34.0

the science of psychedelics. Oakland just became the second city in the United States to essentially

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