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Thinking Allowed

Museums and nationalism, Imagining utopias

Thinking Allowed

BBC

Society & Culture, Science

4.4997 Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2016

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Museums and the 'nation': What can we learn about nationalism by looking at a country's cultural institutions? Laurie Taylor talks to Peggy Levitt, Professor of Sociology at Wellesley College, and author of a study which explores how museums today represent diversity and make sense of immigration and globalisation. She interviewed a range of museum directors, curators, and policymakers and heard the inside stories of the famous paintings and objects which define collections across the globe; from Europe to the United States, Asia, and the Middle East. They're joined by Julian Spalding, the art critic and writer.

Also, imagining utopias. Professor Craig Calhoun, director of the London School of Economics and Political Science, considers the role of impossible dreams in shaping our reality.

Producer: Jayne Egerton.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is a Thinking Aloud Podcast from the BBC and for more details in our terms of use and much,

0:06.0

much more about thinking aloud. Go to our website at BBC.co.uk.

0:12.2

I once asked the Christian brother who took the fourth form religious education class at my secondary school

0:18.0

if you really mess up with all your relations and friends again when you got to heaven. I mean even those you

0:23.7

couldn't stand? Well as I remember Brother Alexander explained that the idea of

0:27.6

meeting someone that you didn't like in heaven was an impossibility.

0:30.4

Heaven was a utopia which everyone loved everyone else because they were all

0:34.0

united in their love of God. Now boys any other questions? Well years later during my

0:39.4

radical days I remember having rather similar concerns about the communist utopia which we occasionally

0:44.4

allowed ourselves to visualize when we were selling copies of our newspaper outside factory gates.

0:50.0

What would happen to all those old capitalists when they found themselves in this new utopia?

0:57.0

Oh good, would they say? The states withered away?

1:00.0

Well, I imagine that some rather similar thoughts about the disjunction between utopian hopes and dull reality

1:06.1

are likely to be aired during next week's LSE's literary festival, a festival which commemorates

1:11.8

the 500th anniversary of the publication of Thomas More's Utopia

1:16.4

with a series of talks and debates bearing such titles as the allure of happy endings,

1:21.9

Utopias in History and where utopias go wrong.

1:26.3

Well we can have our own special preview of such utopian matters because here in the studio I'm now

1:30.8

joined by Professor Craig Calhoun who this

1:36.0

Thursday, that's the 18th, will be launching the whole event with a talk called

1:40.1

Can Imagination Change the world? Can it Craig? Of course it can. And in fact without

1:49.2

imagination we'd have a hard time making any choices about our future.

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