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Emergence Magazine Podcast

Museum of Color – Stephanie Krzywonos

Emergence Magazine Podcast

Emergence Magazine

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Spirituality, Natural Sciences, Science

4.7627 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Nonfiction writer Stephanie Krzywonos opens a door into the histories of our most iconic and desired pigments, from ochre to bone black, lapis lazuli to mummy brown. In our earliest attempts to recreate the magnificent colors of Earth for our art, garments, make-up, and more, we mixed and alchemized matter drawn from the flesh of the Earth Herself. Stephanie follows a spectrum of colors from these origins, through the entangled webs of colonialism, capitalism, and the more-than-human world, to their synthetic replication and mass production, inviting us to see how our colors hold stories of both lightness and darkness.  Read the essay. Artwork by Studio Airport. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast. I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, host of this show, an executive editor of Emergence Magazine,

0:08.9

located on the unseated ancestral lands of the Coast Mewalk people in present-day Marin County.

0:15.9

Each week, we feature interviews, stories, poetry, and author-narrated essays, exploring the threads connecting ecology, culture, and spirituality.

0:29.5

The brilliant red of the sky as the sun rises, the translucent blue-green of the sea, the warm yellow light of late afternoon, the complete blackness

0:40.2

of space, the beauty of such impossible colors within nature has driven the human pursuit

0:46.3

of capturing their likeness for hundreds of thousands of years. In our attempts to recreate

0:51.4

the colors of the earth for our art, our clothes, our makeup,

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and many other things, we more often than not have done so by mixing and alchemizing matter

1:01.5

drawn from the flesh of the earth herself.

1:05.8

In this week's essay, nonfiction writer Stephanie Quiswanos probes the histories of our

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most iconic pigments,

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from ochre to bone black, lapis lazuli to mummy brown,

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and the intersection of colonialism, capitalism, and the more than human world,

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the crushing of metamorphic rock, the extraction of mucus from sea snails

1:25.6

that led to these colors' creation.

1:29.1

Curious about how we relate to color, how we attribute meaning to certain hues,

1:33.9

and also how we label people with color,

1:36.8

Stephanie invites us to see beyond aesthetics into the entwinement of human and land,

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and how the colors that emerge between hold both lightness and darkness.

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If one could only catch the true color of nature, the very thought of it drives me mad,

1:56.4

Andrew Wyeth. Oaker

1:59.2

Darkness-filled Font-Degum Cave, but dark is not the same as the color black.

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