I'm Roland on my end.

Well, then, how can you tell when you're really in love?

All right, Dylan.

So today, we're going to get a little bit personal and I want you to be as

honest as you want to be.

Oh boy, okay. I'm appropriately, so let's get personal.

So here it goes.

Has anyone ever broken your heart?

Oh, man. I sort of there was maybe I would call it more of a mutual heartbreak.

It was a high school girlfriend that lasted well into college actually was long distance.

But it was a serious relationship.

It was six, five or six years, the first sort of real love of my life, a woman named Catherine.

You know, I went off to college, we kept the relationship going,

we'd see each other in summers and on vacations,

but it was hard to maintain that kind of relationship, and then she went

off to college, and she went to New York City, and had new friends, and a exciting city life, and she did

what I think was a pretty reasonable thing.

She we had this phone call that I remember really well.

She said like, I don't think we should see each other anymore.

And I said like, you she was like, no, yeah, like not at all.

And she was like, no, yeah, like not at all.

And I was like, okay, well, I guess I'll never see you again.

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