Murder or Suicide: The Wild Life and Sad Death of Alex Pennig

Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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🗓️ 29 February 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

A Minnesota man claims his mistress fatally shot herself with his gun. The question of Murder or Suicide plays out in this episode of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Joe will walk you through all of the forensic problems with the story being told. And when everything is said and done, you decide, was it murder, or suicide?

Transcript Highlights

00:01:20 Would a right-handed person use left hand to shoot

00:02:19 Discuss murder or suicide

00:04:15 Talk about “accidental”

00:05:51Discuss science and determination

00:11:16 How quick does a body become stiff

00:13:50 Different jurisdictions

00:18:25 Talk about the scene

00:21:40 Difference in suicide among genders

00:26:27Discuss drying blood

00:29:31Discuss ER Nurse can’t do CPR

00:33:14 Talk about short timeline

00:38:50 Discuss can you wash away evidence?

00:41:36 Talk about skin, brain, muzzle flash

00:44:14 Discuss desire to help people and achieve and throw it all away

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0:00.0	Bodybags with Joseph Scott Morgan. I've heard it said before that the more brilliant people you get into a room, the more confusing
0:28.9	things become. And that's the case sometimes in forensic pathology as well.
0:37.0	Because everybody, you know, forensic pathologists are no different than any of the rest of us.
0:45.0	In that they all have their own opinions, which is good, but sometimes things can be kind of murky or confusing.
0:57.0	And in our case here that we're going to talk about, there is a bit of confusion about a ruling
1:10.0	relative to a death. But one thing is for certain.
1:20.0	Alexandra Alex Penig, who was 32 years old, sustained a gunshot wound to her head.
1:30.0	And we do know that she didn't survive it. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is body bags.
1:40.5	They, you know, sometimes you and I, I know this.
1:45.0	You're the guru.
1:48.0	You're the guru when it comes to all things,
1:51.0	audio and production and all these sorts of things and I got to tell you I'm glad
1:56.1	that there's not two of us that are brilliant because you can help me walk
1:59.7	through these with problems with little or no concern. I know that the content that we put out is going
2:07.8	to sound good most of the time, I think. And it's because you're the bright one when it comes to all of that. You can help walk through technical problems.
2:18.0	But sometimes, such as in this case today, it's hard to make heads or tails of things and I think that sometimes
2:26.7	we just throw our hands up and say, well, I can't call it anything other than what it is and that is undetermined and that's what we're left with
2:35.6	you.
2:36.6	I don't understand how that's possible.
2:40.8	What does it really mean when manner of death is undetermined?
2:44.7	Now, just so you know, today we're dealing with murder or suicide, the death of
2:51.8	Alexandra Penick, she preferred to go by Alex.
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