Murder in Richmond Hill: The Crimes of Grace Marks and James McDermott

Dark Poutine - True Crime and Dark History

Curiouscast

True Crime, Society & Culture, History, Documentary

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Episode 278: In this episode, we plunge into the perplexing saga of Grace Marks and James McDermott. Their story, a blend of mystery and controversy, revolves around the savage murders of wealthy Richmond Hill farmer Thomas Kinnear and his housekeeper, Nancy Montgomery, in 1843. This tale continues to ignite debates about guilt, innocence, and the essence of criminality. We'll lay out a tangled web of facts and speculations surrounding these infamous figures and their crimes. We journey through Grace's life, from her hazardous upbringing in Ireland to her immigration to Canada and her involvement in one of the 19th century's most notorious crimes. We also delve into James McDermott's role and his complex relationship with Grace Marks, a subject of relentless speculation. Sources: Grace Marks | The Canadian Encyclopedia Life in the Clearings versus the Bush by Susanna Moodie - Free Ebook The trials of James McDermott and Grace Marks | Digital Archive | Toronto Public Library An Historical Enigma: the real Grace Marks and Alias Grace | Anna Mazzola Is ‘Alias Grace’ a True Story? Separate Fact vs. Fiction Beyond Grace: Criminal Lunatic Women in Victorian Canada The Trial and Testimony of Grace Marks, Murderess: Gender Performance in a Colonial Courtroom, Upper Canada 1843 by Ashley Banbury Early Days in Richmond Hill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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2:16.6	Grace Marx and James McDermott's servants of Thomas Keneer and Richmond Hill, Ontario, became notorious for the 1843 murder of their employer and his housekeeper, Nancy Montgomery.
2:33.6	Grace claimed she was present during the murders but didn't directly participate, but the courts disagreed.
2:40.6	The motive behind the murders was reportedly theft and the desire to start a new life.
2:45.6	The pair escaped to Toronto, intending to flee to the United States and marry.
2:50.6	However, they were arrested in Lewiston, New York and returned to Toronto.
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