My guest today is an ex-murder detective.

He's been doing this for the last 30 years

at Essex Police Force, and he's experienced everything,

whether it's investigating countless criminal cases,

horrific murders.

I mean, a lot of different things he's seen.

And I saw a couple of his interviews

and his expertise is interviewing the person

that's being committed of the murder or the crime

to gather intel to see if this person's guilty

or innocence or he needs to go gather more intel.

And I think there's a lot of, uh, we can learn from that

in any career you're in, maybe even in your personal life.

So having said, Paul Mallory, thank you so much

for being a guest on my attainment.

Thank you very much for having me this afternoon.

So question for you.

When did you wake up and say, I want to be a murder detective?

Well, I come from a line of cops.

My dad was a cop.

My brother was a cop.

My uncle's my cousins were cops.

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