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Hello and welcome to True Crime Daily's Some Your Host, Anna Garcia.

And everyone in the world of True Crime has a story to tell about a case that they worked on

or maybe something that they lived through, some are high profile, some you've never heard of,

but they're all fascinating.

Today, we are talking about the Chicago mob with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jake Halpern.

Hey, Jake, welcome to the program.

Hey, thanks for having me on.

Oh, I can't wait to talk organized crime with you.

One of my favorite topics, personally.

Jake's got a new podcast out called Mobland that focuses on organized crime in Chicago

and more specifically on a controversial mob attorney who then turned FBI informant named Bob Coolian.

Jake, you spent more than a year investigating this and doing interviews with key figures.

It's interesting, you know, when you do a piece that's based on the events decades past,

do you feel that the recollections are turn more glowing depending on who you're talking to

about the drama of what happened?

Definitely. I mean, look, time takes us toll on memories, right?

And so, yes, sometimes people want to seat with rose-colored lenses.

Sometimes people selectively remember things, right?

And then other times, people talk about things that they just, for whatever reason,

weren't ready to or able to talk about at the time.

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