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Hi and welcome to this week's sidebar.

In episode nine, you heard about the confessions made in the Polderman case

and how five defendants were ultimately convicted.

For this sidebar, we wanted to talk more about false confessions and how they happen. So Jacinda interviewed Dr. Tina Zatoli, an expert in the field.

Thank you so much for having me on. My name is Tina Zatoli. I'm an associate professor at Montclair State

University. I'm a clinical psychologist by training. My area of expertise falls really at the

intersection of psychology and law. I primarily focus on decisions that people make in legal

context that might lead to adverse outcomes like wrongful convictions. And in particular I focus on admissions made in those contexts. So guilty pleas largely and also

false confessions. So false confessions, it's something that's hard to understand how that happens.

Like as individuals, I think we all think, well, I wouldn't do that. But it

does happen. It does happen and it happens more frequently than I think most people would be

comfortable understanding. We don't know exactly how many people falsely confess, of course,

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