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bringing you interviews, inspiration and information on writing, publishing options and marketing ideas for your book.

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Hello creatives. I'm Joanna Penn. And this is episode number 669 of the podcast, and it is Friday the 20th of January,

2023 as I record this. In today's show, I'm talking to Mark Reklau about how to make

multi-six figures from books as a non-fiction author. And we also talk about the power of small

habits every day and how you can change your

future as an author by consistency rather than massive shifts. As well as how Mark makes most money

from book sales rather than consulting or courses like many nonfiction authors. We go into translations,

the business mindset and also why he went

wide with print and how that's going on Ingram Spark and how it saved his business when his

Amazon account was shut down by mistake. So the interview has lots of tips on author business,

whatever genre you write. It's not just for non-fiction authors.

There's lots on mindset and other things. So that's coming up in the interview section.

So in publishing and book marketing news, well, Jane Friedman in the hot sheet reported from

Digital Book World where Spotify gave a talk about audiobooks.

And remember that authors using Findaway Voices, which is now owned by Spotify, can market

their audiobook with 100 free giveaway codes, which Spotify considers an important vehicle for

growth. And also, Jane notes that author Brandon Sanderson is using this

exact method to give his Kickstarter backers access to his audiobooks. If you remember,

Brandon Sanderson's $41 million dollar Kickstarter. And he, I talked about this last week or the week before, that he's decided

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