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The Dream

Multi-Multi-Level-Marketing

The Dream

Little Everywhere

Health & Fitness, Business, Society & Culture

4.615.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

How do you rebuild your life after 13 years and 6 companies worth of Multi Level Marketing indoctrination? The Dream (we're back!) host Jane Marie talks to former MLM devotee and current anti MLM crusader, Erin Bies, about the state of the MLM industry and the work Erin is now doing to take it down. And you might just learn a little something about exogenous ketones along the way....


Find out more about the work Erin is doing:


https://www.erinbies.com/

TikTok: @erinbies

IG: @therealbiestmode

www.youtube.com/@ErinBies



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0:00.0

So my name is Aaron Bees. I'm a wife, a mom, a military veteran, a certified personal trainer.

0:06.4

I spent 13 and a half years in multi-level marketing and healed my way out.

0:11.2

And now I'm using all of my social media platforms to educate and raise awareness around the dangers of multi-level marketing companies and the tactics used by the reps.

0:18.7

And what companies were you with?

0:20.8

I was in slumber parties, pure romance, Arbon, Modair, love winks, and then prove it.

0:31.9

Jesus.

0:32.5

So I was six companies.

0:37.7

You may recall this voice from season three of this show.

0:42.0

In season one, we did a deep dive on MLMs, also known as direct marketing, network marketing,

0:48.6

direct sales, and according to me, pyramid schemes.

0:53.2

As Erin said, she used to be in a diet culture MLM called Prove It, whose top seller, and a friend of Aaron's, was a woman named Jesse Lee Ward.

1:03.7

During the production of last season, Jesse Lee died, and most of what Aaron and I talked about was Jesse Lee before that happened and the grief

1:12.9

after that happened.

1:14.9

But I wanted to know more about Erin herself and her current crusade against MLMs.

1:21.4

She's a big deal in the anti-MLM and anti-scammer world, and she attacks it from all angles,

1:29.9

and literally all platforms, including YouTube.

1:30.8

Her videos are great.

1:32.8

But let's start with her personal journey from MLM devotee to anti-MLM Crusader. Okay, so what made you keep switching companies?

1:54.8

Well, the first company, slumber parties that I was a part of, was actually acquired by pure romance.

2:00.0

So that was why I switched from there. Once I got into that I was a part of was actually acquired by pure romance. So that was why I switched from there.

2:02.9

Once I got into that company and started to see that, in my opinion, they were just wanting

2:09.2

specific downlines to come over to pure romance or teens. They weren't really interested in

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