Multi-Level Manipulation w/ Roberta Blevins

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🗓️ 1 December 2021

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Returning this week is Roberta Blevins, a former "Hun", who left the MLM world in 2017 and began publicly educating and speaking out against it. In her time in MLM, she was involved as a consultant for 3; It Works!, LuLaRoe and Modere, and a customer of many. Since leaving MLM, she has educated herself on the systemic structure of the business model, the psychological manipulation, the seedy underbelly, and governmental ties, the cult indoctrination, and the history of Multi-Level Marketing. She educates daily on TikTok, and podcasts in her "free time", talking to the survivors and victims of these commercial cults, disguised as the quickest route to the American Dream. In this second part of their two-part conversation, Rachel begins by sharing how she lost a friendship to an MLM, while Roberta goes on to describe the moment that prompted her to finally leave the MLM world. Roberta details a day in the life of a "hun" and how she ultimately extricated herself from the pyramid. She also discussed her transition into "hun" advocacy and anti-MLM activism through both education and humor. Before You Go: Rachel addresses the guilt that ex-members of high control groups often feel after leaving the group. She provides insight into the self-loathing that can accompany the admission of predatory behavior in ex-members. Listen to Roberta's podcast "Life After MLM" here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/life…lm/id1553784236 Find Rachel's book "Now I Know, Kids Talking To Kids About Divorce..." here: https://www.amazon.com/Now-I-Know-Rachel-Bernstein/dp/1620867893/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=now+i+know+rachel+bernstein&qid=1638298566&sr=8-1 Thanks to our newest Patreon supporters Robert Andre and "Teahaze" and to Hollie Hire and Katherine Matheson for increasing their support! We couldn't do it without you! To help support the show monthly and sign up for cool Indoctrination shirts and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Want to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctriNATION You can help the show for free by leaving a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0	Welcome to Indocination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control. I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.
0:13.5	Hi, everybody. If you haven't already done so, please go to patreon.com slash indoctrination to become a supporter of the show. You'll get cool merchandise
0:24.0	and you'll get a weekly check-in couple minutes of me chatting about a subject that I have not
0:30.7	covered on a podcast episode. And that's my special gift to you for helping to sustain the show. Again, patreon.com slash
0:39.9	indoctrination. Thank you so much.
0:47.4	And today, we have part two of my conversation with Roberta Blevins.
0:54.0	She is someone who has been doing a lot of publicity
0:58.3	to get people to really see how harmful the whole world of multi-level marketing can be.
1:08.8	She began educating and speaking out against multi-level marketing in 2017
1:15.4	after she was involved as a consultant for three different MLMs, one of which was Lou LaRoe,
1:23.8	which some of you have heard about. Since leaving MLM, she has educated herself on the systemic
1:29.8	structure of the business model and the psychological manipulation involved, the seedy underbelly
1:37.2	and governmental ties, and also the history of multi-level marketing. She educates people daily
1:43.5	on TikTok, so definitely check her out. And she
1:46.9	podcasts in her free time, talking to the survivors and victims of these commercial cults disguised,
1:54.6	as she says, as the quickest route to the American dream. In the first part of our conversation,
2:01.3	we talked about her first getting involved,
2:03.9	and I talked about something called the sunk cost fallacy.
2:08.7	Today, we're going to talk about what prompted her to leave
2:11.6	and how she's doing ever since.
2:17.0	Here's Roberta now.
2:27.0	I had a friend because I eventually brought something up that she didn't want to hear who was often
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