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Stay Tuned with Preet

Muhammad Ali and Our Times (with Ken Burns)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Government, Society & Culture, News

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Preet answers listener questions about the damages provision in the new restrictive Texas abortion law, the point of ethical reprimands against members of Congress, and the best Indian restaurant in New Jersey. Then, Preet interviews celebrated documentary filmmaker Ken Burns about his new 8-hour documentary, Muhammad Ali. Burns has been changing how we think about America for over four decades, offering magisterial works on subjects ranging from the Civil War, to baseball, to jazz. Preet talks to Burns about the legendary Ali and what his tragic and triumphant life can teach us about our current moment. Muhammad Ali premieres on PBS this Sunday, September 19th at 8PM ET.  For show notes and a transcript of the episode, head to: cafe.com/stay-tuned/muhammad-ali-and-our-times Don’t miss the Insider Bonus, where Burns discusses how he selects his film subjects.  Listen to our new podcast, Up Against the Mob, hosted by Elie Honig. New episodes drop every Wednesday. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. As always, tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is produced by CAFE Studios and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Editorial Producers: Noa Azulai, Sam Ozer-Staton, David Kurlander. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to Stay Tuned.

0:06.0

I'm Pete Barara.

0:08.0

He has absorbed the indignities of the previous 350 years of treatment of African Americans on this continent,

0:15.0

and so he becomes also a spokesperson for that.

0:19.0

So when he says, look how pretty I am.

0:21.0

I am beautiful. He's speaking for everybody, and for those who are expecting the athlete to be modest

0:27.0

and do not behave that way, he's suddenly scary.

0:35.0

That's the celebrated documentary filmmaker Ken Burns talking about the iconic boxer and cultural icon, Muhammad Ali.

0:43.0

Born Cassius Clay in 1942 Louisville, Ali riveted the world with his unconventional sparring style,

0:49.0

his public conversion to Islam, and his refusal to fight in the Vietnam War.

0:54.0

The day after he won the World Heavyweight title at just 22 in 1964,

1:00.0

Cassius Clay announced that he had become a member of the Nation of Islam,

1:04.0

and that his new name was Muhammad Ali.

1:18.0

In 1967, still at the top of the boxing world, Ali faced five years in prison,

1:23.0

after he refused induction to the draft.

1:44.0

After an ultimately successful four-year legal battle to avoid prison time for his draft resistance,

1:49.0

Ali improbably reclaimed the World Heavyweight title twice,

1:54.0

fighting legendary bouts against fellow-grates, Joe Frazier, and George Foreman.

2:13.0

Reviled from much of his career for his strong views,

2:16.0

he gained universal respect from the American people later in life,

2:19.0

even as Parkinson's disease robbed him of his voice and body.

2:24.0

Ken Burns has crafted an eight-hour documentary that dives deep into Ali's inspiring and challenging life.

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