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Hello, Gordon Smart here from whistleblowers football's most original new podcast.

Each week, I'm joined by Ian Ladieman and Mark Clattenberg. Coming up. I respect him for what he's done as a referee in management, but as a person, I can't respect the man. People say it all the time. Oh, we'd rather lose four three than win one-n-n-n-thor. You wouldn't. That's powerfully untrue. I do my I did it like Andrew Callers do my thing I don't need to do I shoot my shot I hit my goals I let man act like they don't know

Check my record I learned that code

1 87 that's Andrew cold

Murder a beat I'm cold

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