Hello, everyone, welcome back to the Challenge Dirty a wrap-up podcast for the sort of finale. I am Brian Cohn. Here as always is my coached college. Allie, how are you? Looks like we've made it. Look how... Almost made it. Almost. Because of course, Eve, when you think you reached the finale, not this season. Nope. Can't feel it. Not yet. It's it's actually crazy because I watch this

today. If anyone's been following me on Twitter, I've been watching it throughout the law school

in various locations. And I was shocked. I wasn't spoiled because a lot of times when I have to wait

till the next day to watch an episode, I get spoiled one way or another on Twitter. No big deal. And I was like, wow, I'm doing such a great job avoiding spoilers. Little did I know. It's because no spoilers existed. They did not announce the winner on the finale. I don't think we're going to, I almost kind of never want to know who wins and have this just be like this purgatory state where the season actually never ends. we never really know who wins and we just podcasting about this until like 20th. Do you hate yourself? Serious question. I don't want to live in purgatory. I have some interesting. Oh, sorry. No, no, go ahead. I was going to keep branding about how knowing it is. But go ahead. Well, should we talk about it? We got a lot of questions that we think. Controversial opinion. I'm actually not mad about it. Explain. Well, I think this happens a lot. Like, RuPaul's Drag Race, they don't announce the winner until the reunion show. Survivor, they don't announce the winner to the reunion,

although the reunion does happen right after the show.

Like, I think there's precedent in the reality TV world to do this.

And I don't mind that, like,

I almost enjoy the suspense for the cast members.

I love that they're going to find out by pulling the double cross. Like, I don't know. It doesn't bother me as much as I think some people expected it to bother us. But it seems like you'll be able to give that satisfying reaction. See, for me, if they want to do this like Survivor and it's like, oh, they don't find out to the reunion like you said. But like for us, it's, you know, two minutes later. Perfectly fine. Let's do that. The fact that they are making us wait another week to find out who wins this freaking season is insane. Just do a two-hour finale in a reunion and get it. And actually, it has been talked about offline earlier, because I think, as we talked about offline earlier, I think the the reunion is two parts so it is going to half-fives away and making a multiple parts

but just like do it right this night you got just do it all in one shot it's not good for our on

air personas that we talk offline I want everyone to believe that we only interact when it's being

recorded which is like partially true but no I see what you're saying and I think it's like this might be, and I'm curious to hear from the listeners, if you watch RuPaul's Drag Race, you're probably not as bothered by this setup. Maybe. Maybe there are people who have proved me wrong. It's just like it's not a totally new.

It almost bothered me that they were making it like this was a totally new and shocking

like concept when it's just another like other reality shows do this.

I don't know.

I liked it because I think it would have been really unsatisfying if T.J.

wasn't there and like who what was a video going to be like Camilla, you want or

whoever like wins. Like I don't understand that. Yeah. I mean, so. if TJ wasn't there and like who what was a video going to be like Camilla you want or whoever

like wins like I don't understand that yeah I mean so how do you think it play without TJ there

just like throughout the entire final obviously with the end it was even like a little bit weirder

how do you think it played throughout the episode I think if there is to be a note on the phone

like press play when everybody's finished the challenge, it's a little like DIY.

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