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The Philip DeFranco Show

MS 5.9 Why Harvard Is Being Sued Over This 169-Year-Old Slave Photo…

The Philip DeFranco Show

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🗓️ 9 May 2019

⏱️ 11 minutes

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0:00.0

Hello, hello, welcome to your extra morning show. My name is Philip DeFranco, and today we're

0:04.2

to be talking about how a 169-year-old photo is at the center of a case against Harvard University.

0:09.1

To Maryland here is suing Harvard for ownership of a couple of photos that she claims show her great great

0:13.3

grandfather Renty and Renty's daughter Delia. And as far as why these photos

0:16.5

would be notable to anyone outside of the family, they are reportedly the oldest

0:19.9

known photos of an enslaved African-American. They a part of a collection of 15 similar photos,

0:24.1

but these photos aren't just documentary.

0:26.0

These photos were also used to prove a 150-year-old racist scientific theory.

0:29.6

And today, this case against Harvard raises many more questions

0:32.0

than just who owns the photo of renting.

0:33.7

From how American universities are profiting from slavery to whether Harvard has a moral responsibility

0:38.0

to give up ownership of that photo.

0:39.7

And so to take you through this case to see what it means for Harvard and these other universities and the larger implications of this case.

0:45.8

We had Dylan Siegel from the team dive into it.

0:48.1

Let's start with the photos of Renty and Delia that Lanier claims are hers.

0:51.4

That image and a few others are part of a series of photos of seven enslaved

0:54.8

Africans in 1850 in which they were stripped to the waist and shot in both profile

0:58.6

and portrait. The photos are actually an old kind of photograph called a degarotype

1:02.3

taken by an equally old kind of photograph called a de-garo type, taken by an equally old kind of camera.

1:04.4

Lanier's lawsuit and several publications claim that the photos were commissioned by a Harvard

1:08.3

professor named Louis Agassi, a Swiss-born zoologist sometimes considered the father of American natural science.

1:13.6

But a spokesman for Harvard's Peabody Museum said that there isn't any evidence that Agassie

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