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Deadline: White House

“Mr. Smith is right”

Deadline: White House

MSNBC

News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses the nomination hearing of Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth, Jack Smith’s biting defense of his investigation into Trump’s role in January 6th with a former committee member and former Capitol police officer, as well as the devastating wildfires in southern California. Joined by: Rep. Jason Crow, Rep. Zoe Lofgren, Michael Fanone, Ryan Nobles, Claire McCaskill, David Jolly, Paul Rieckhoff, Maya Wiley, Steve Patterson, and CA Rep. George Patterson.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone, 4 o'clock in New York, to understand the import and the stakes of what happened on Capitol Hill today.

0:15.8

And to understand how it shows us exactly how Donald Trump, a second term as president has given up on even

0:22.7

pretending to want to govern. We begin with a moment from exactly eight years ago. Here's a

0:28.9

snippet from the confirmation hearing of Donald Trump's first defense secretary, General Jim Mattis.

0:40.3

I'll join my colleagues and thanking you for your service.

0:43.3

You've spent your entire life in service of country, keeping us safe.

0:47.3

And we all know the most important function of federal government is to keep its citizens safe at all times.

0:52.3

And you've done that with honor and with integrity.

0:55.4

So thank you on behalf of a grateful nation.

0:58.5

If you end up in this job, our national security may well depend in part on your willingness

1:05.2

to voice your opinions, even when others disagree, even when you are under pressure to remain silent.

1:12.4

We are counting on you.

1:13.8

I believe that your appreciation for the costs of war in blood, treasure, and lives,

1:22.1

and the impact on veterans afterward will enable you to be a check on rash and potentially ill-considered use of military force

1:33.3

by a president-elect who perhaps lacks that same appreciation.

1:40.2

And so I think you will have a critical role as Secretary of Defense in providing a check on that kind of action.

1:52.2

So all those comments made to Jim Mattis.

1:57.6

Jim Mattis would go on to be confirmed by the United States Senate 98 to 1.

2:04.0

A celebrated and politically uncontroversial pick

2:07.4

by any ideological standard.

2:09.6

Donald Trump at the time was proud

2:11.2

to stand with him and to have nominated him.

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