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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

"Mr Mamdani, THIS is What Makes a City Thrive" with Eamon Waterford

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Society & Culture, Education, Comedy Interviews, Comedy, Self-improvement

4.5905 Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Cities that rock and cities that suck do a few things differently. They need to hit a bullseye on high-vs-low density, walkability, law and order, red tape, congestion pricing and a host of other things. Which cities nail it? And how can yours do better? Eamon Waterford is a world expert on what the best cities get right. He's the chief executive of a think tank, the Committee for Sydney, that represents the interests of all the big players in Sydney’s economy: not just property developers but local councils, banks, architects, consultants, law firms, universities. He assesses how cities all over the world can evolve into the best version of themselves. Eamon joined Josh to riff on Mamdani, New York, Tokyo, Singapore, Paris, Los Angeles; on the tension between low-density suburbs and walkability; between infrastructure and green spaces; between untrammelled development and too much risk aversion. If you want to live in the city of your dreams, listen up. Go to https://surfshark.com/joshs or use code JOSHS at checkout to get 4 extra months of Surfshark VPN!

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0:00.0

Gahy humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. Here's an uncomfortable question for you.

0:09.5

Why do some cities thrive and others just kind of suck? How much control does a mayor have over such

0:19.5

things? And can Mr. Mamdani change New York for the better or for the

0:23.7

worse? What is it that makes New York special that Tokyo does or doesn't have, that Paris does or doesn't have,

0:30.3

that Los Angeles does or doesn't have? City planners really need to hit a bullseye on a range of different things. How dense is the building, are the building's going to be? Is it going to be high density or low density? If you go for low density so that people can live in suburbs, then you don't have walkability. So how do you balance the walkability against the fact that people want to live in big houses? What's the balance on law and order? You don't want to be too brutal, but on the other hand,

0:55.0

you don't want people urinating on the subway. How do you balance red tape? The need for

1:00.0

councils to be prudent in what they approve versus the need for the city to be able to get on with doing its thing.

1:06.0

What about congestion pricing and traffic? All of this stuff is being tweaked in the offices of city planners and

1:12.4

academics and property developers. One person who analyzes all of it and in some respects overseas

1:19.0

much of it in Sydney is Aiman Waterford. He's a world expert on what cities get right. He's the

1:25.6

chief executive of a think tank, which is called the Committee

1:28.7

for Sydney. And they basically represent all the big players in the city's economy, not just

1:35.4

property developers, but local councils and banks and architects and consultants and law firms and

1:40.3

universities. So he studies how cities all over the world can evolve into the best version of

1:45.4

themselves. If you want to live in the best version of your city, then listen up. I hope you

1:51.1

enjoy him, the one, the only, Amen Waterford. I mean, one of the interesting things I think when I think about cities is like the density versus, you know, high density versus low density cities are almost a complete different thing.

2:08.6

It's funny that we call both of them cities.

2:10.3

Yeah.

2:10.9

In the sense that, you know, you live in New York City or, you know, in Tokyo versus living in the suburbs of Dallas.

2:20.2

Right.

2:20.9

Totally different experience.

2:22.3

Totally.

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