Mr. Altman Goes to Washington + Casey Goes on This American Life

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.3 • 5.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2023

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

In a congressional hearing this week, OpenAI’s chief executive, Sam Altman, appeared to be on the same page as lawmakers: It’s time to regulate A.I. But like so many other proposals to regulate tech, will it actually happen? The Times’s technology reporter Cecilia Kang helps us understand whether Congress will actually act, and what that could look like. Then, Casey talks with Twitter’s former head of trust and safety, Yoel Roth, before and after Elon Musk took over the company. Plus, how to moderate a social network. Hint: It’s hard.

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0:00.0	Casey, can I show you an app? Show me an app. Okay, this is a new app called New York Times audio,
0:05.8	and as you might guess from the name, it is a New York Times audio app. So this time,
0:10.2	the app is coming from inside the house. We're sitting in right now. Right. So this is a new iOS app.
0:16.4	It's for New York Times subscribers. It's called New York Times audio. Our show is on this app,
0:21.3	as well as a daily playlist of news. It's got narrated articles. It's got podcasts from
0:27.2	this American life, serial productions, and the athletic. And I've been using this app as a beta
0:32.7	tester for a while now. And it is really good. All right. I'm going to get on the Wi-Fi and do this.
0:38.5	I believe in you. Now, this I'm looking at this for the first time and I'm scrolling. And let me tell
0:43.2	you what I'm saying. I'm seeing Turkey's president fighting for political survival. I'm seeing how
0:48.1	$89 million of phone donations disappeared. The Daily's on here. Small Niche podcasts.
0:53.8	And I actually am seeing a new episode of Hard Fork. So when I see that Kevin, when I look at that,
0:58.4	I think I'm getting everything. And there's articles, narrated articles, there's narrated articles.
1:03.4	And it's the actual reporter taking time away from doing journalism to read it to your lazy
1:09.2	app. That's all happening in the New York Times audio app. And it's free if you subscribe to the New
1:14.8	York Times. You can also, and this is a very exciting feature for me, you can choose between eight
1:22.4	different playback speeds ranging from 0.8X all the way up to 3X. And if you are listening to Hard Fork
1:31.2	on 3X, I actually do want to hear from you. That's too fast. I'll say that's too fast. Yeah. I mean,
1:36.0	I kind of want to listen to it on 3X now just to hear it. It sounds like.
1:43.2	This is 3X.
1:44.4	Yeah, our laughter and 3X. It does not sound great. No, it sounds like shipmarks.
1:54.4	So if you want us to do Hard Fork or any other show from the New York Times at any speed ranging
1:58.8	from 0.8 to 3.0, you can download New York Times audio at nytimes.com slash audio app. And you
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