Hello and welcome to Being Well, I'm Forest Hanson.

If you're new to the podcast, this is where we explore the practical science of lasting

well-being.

And if you've listened before, welcome back.

I'm joined today as usual by Dr. Rick Hanson, Rick as a clinical psychologist, a best-selling

author, and he's also my dad.

So dad, how are you doing today?

I'm great, and I'm really looking forward to talking with you and our guest.

Yeah, very much the same, but looking forward to this episode, I think it's focused on a very

important topic, which is centered around the idea that we all want to be effective out in the world.

We want to be successful at home and at work.

We want to achieve our goals and generally get the most out of life.

Much of the time, working with effort and energy can feel really good, but it's also pretty easy

for the pursuit of high achievement to fall prey to unhealthy forms of striving,

perfectionism, and productivity anxiety.

So how do we balance all of that?

How do we balance getting what we want from life without unnecessary tension and anxiety?

How do we aim high while also feeling at ease?

To help us do that, we're joined by a wonderful clinical psychologist, an expert in act or

acceptance and commitment therapy, and a fellow podcaster, Dr. Diana Hill.

Dr. Hill specializes in evidence-based and compassion-focused approaches to living well.

She has a thriving private practice in Santa Barbara, California,

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