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Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

Moving at a Human Pace With Isaac Fitzgerald

Under the Influence with Jo Piazza

Jo Piazza, Influence Inc.

Personal Journals, Kids & Family, Technology, Parenting, Society & Culture

4.3833 Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

What does it mean to move through the world at a human pace? To ramble and wander and chat up strangers in real life? This week, we sit down with writer Isaac Fitzgerald to talk about his new book American Rambler and what happens when you decide to walk across America and follow in the footsteps of Johnny Appleseed. These great American yappers get into the idea that midlife is a second coming-of-age, why wandering might be the antidote to our screen-obsessed lives, and how the definition of “adventure” changes when you’re not twenty anymore. Spoiler: It gets better. ORDER AMERICAN RAMBLER TODAY Join our newsletter community here. ORDER The Parisian Heist here. Visit our lovely sponsors here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:33.6

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0:40.8

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Now on to the episode.

1:05.1

We've spent the last few years living and existing through our screens.

1:13.6

We scroll, we react, and we flatten entire lives and entire stories into just a couple of lines of text.

1:19.1

But today we're talking about what happens when you actually go back out into the world.

1:22.7

When you actually move through it at a human pace.

1:26.4

And I love, love, love those two words together.

1:31.4

A human pace. Today I'm talking to the absolutely wonderful and magnetic Isaac Fitzgerald about his new book American Rambler.

1:37.2

On its face, it's a story about chasing the legend of Johnny Appleseed across the country.

1:43.1

Isaac does discover that he was much less about apple pie and more about hard cider,

1:48.1

which makes me like Johnny a lot more.

1:50.6

But really, this is a book about finding yourself in midlife, about finding a home,

1:55.4

about loneliness, and about the fact that adventure doesn't end in your 20s.

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