Movie Diversity Test (2021 Rerun)
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 9 April 2023
⏱️ 77 minutes
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March 17, 2021
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| 0:00.0 | So, Birdo and Colin, do you know what the Beck Dell test is? What is the Beck Dell test? |
| 0:06.8 | Birdo, what do you think? If a movie or maybe just a story does a female character appropriately, |
| 0:12.8 | or if it's, you know, like if the female characters use sort like a, as a throwaway character, |
| 0:17.4 | or it's just like a romantic interest, or so there's a whole bunch of questions of like, |
| 0:21.9 | does the movie do this? Does the movie do that? And the fact is most movies don't actually use |
| 0:26.4 | female characters in a useful meaningful way. Colin, is that your understanding? |
| 0:30.7 | Yeah, my understanding was more specific than that. I thought it was two female characters |
| 0:35.7 | had to discuss something other than men. Am I correct or incorrect? |
| 0:40.0 | Well, we get into that in a second, but first let's introduce the podcast. This is the |
| 0:43.9 | Psychology and Seattle podcast. I am Dr. Kirk Honda. I'm a therapist and a professor, |
| 0:49.9 | and this podcast does not pass the Beck Dell test. |
| 0:52.6 | My name is Umberto Kastinha, and I'm a Kuhu Clock Tamer. I am Colin Miller. I live in Dallas, |
| 0:57.9 | and I work for the gay men's mindfulness collective. The Beck Dell test. So this is a measure, |
| 1:02.5 | as you were saying, of the representation of women in fiction, and it doesn't have to be just |
| 1:07.2 | in film. I thought I was just in film, but it isn't. It's in fiction as well written fiction and |
| 1:12.9 | other things. Named after the American cartoonist, Alison Beck Dell, and the criteria are at least two |
| 1:19.6 | women who talk to each other about something other than a man, and the two women must have a name |
| 1:26.3 | in the story. And when I first heard about the Beck Dell test, I don't know what was it 20 years |
| 1:31.9 | ago, 15 years ago, I started rolling through movies, and I thought, nope, that doesn't pass the |
| 1:38.0 | bet because it when you say the criteria, it sounds ridiculous to have two women who talk to |
| 1:45.0 | each other. You're like, why is that so exotic about something other than a man? You're like, |
| 1:49.4 | well, of course, there's so many other things to talk about. Colin, what percentage of movies |
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