Welcome everyone to the program.

Mando Gonzalez here in studio, and I have with us our good friend Graham all the way from England.

Welcome, Graham.

Thank you, Mando.

Good to join you again.

And we are going to be discussing the entire background of the 144,000 and really just all the ways in which that can be understood.

This very interesting group of people that we see very specifically in Revelation 7 and

Revelation 14.

And this is part two of our discussion.

Before we do, I just want to let everybody know about a couple things.

One of them is our conference coming up, June 4th through 7th in Colorado Springs. Please join us. It's going to be a great time. You can go to prophecywatchers.com, scroll down, and you'll see the banner. You'll get to see all the speakers that are going to be there. The titles are going to be up there very soon.

Of course, we're going to have live stream available for that. It's always a great time to be in Colorado. So if you want to take a little trip or a little vacation, you get to climb up some

14,000 footers if you want. It's a great time to be there. The other thing I want to remind everybody

about is our upcoming

trip to Israel. We do have a trip in May, which is full. And so because that trip got full,

we decided, well, let's do another trip. I love bringing people to the land of Israel. It's been a

very big joy for me in my life, having the privilege of bringing people there and having them experience the amazing

nature of seeing Israel for the first time.

We have a trip in January, late January of 2027, and it is really the perfect time to be there

because it's cool, it's green, you'll see the flowers, and it really is israel at its finest and so you can go to

israel twenty twenty seven dot com and you can see all the details there so i encourage you to

join us so graham as we get as we kind of switch over here to thinking about the 144 thousand

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