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Truer Crime

Mother, Martyr, Manipulator: Introducing 'Nobody Should Believe Me'

Truer Crime

Celisia Stanton

True Crime

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In the first episode of Nobody Should Believe Me’s latest season, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks the origin story of Sophie Hartman — a young woman from Michigan who, by 25, had adopted two Zambian girls and written a memoir titled Crowns of Beauty. Andrea explores Sophie’s evangelical roots, the savior narrative she constructed, and what it reveals about identity, motherhood, and power. Andrea is joined by Chad Goller-Sojourner — a performance artist and transracial adoption coach — who helps contextualize the complexities at play. If this episode grabs you, good news: the full season is out now. You can binge all of Nobody Should Believe Me wherever you get your podcasts. Check out the show notes: https://link.chtbl.com/NSBM2025 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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