Hi guys, this is Lisa.

And this is Karin.

And this is Pop Fashion.

Hello, Lisa.

Hello, Karin. It's good to hear your voice again.

Good to hear your voice. Welcome back from New York City. Tell me.

It's been two weeks since Karin and I spoke via the internet, and so much has happened.

So much has happened. I think the headline here is that you went and saw camp. Tell us about it.

I got really lucky because my new benevolent overlord let us out early on Friday before the long weekend.

And the Met has longer weekend hours during the summer, which I guess starts in May.

I don't know what their hours are, but the stars aligned.

And I was like, let's go to the museum.

So my friend Stephanie went with me and we went to see camp. Now, Karin last year, had some major issues with the

Mets Fashion Institute exhibit on Catholicism and fashion. And if I recall correctly, your two

major arguments were wayfinding that like the

exhibit didn't have like a clear path through it. And there's something else that I can't remember.

Okay, worms open up the can of them. I had a whole lot of problems with this exhibit. And I didn't

really want to talk about it because I didn't want to discourage people from going because I think it's still good.

Even if I don't like it, that's okay.

I still want people to go and see clothes.

But I had some problems about what was in the exhibit.

Oh, right, right, right, right.

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