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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Most Replayed Moment: You’re Supposed to Feel Lost! The Truth About Career & ‘Success’ - David Epstein

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

FlightStory

Society & Culture, Business, Education

4.613.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In today’s moment, journalist David Epstein explores the path to long-term success. He delves into the “10,000 hours” rule for mastery and reveals why having a broad skillset might be more advantageous than specialising early on. David Epstein is a renowned science writer and author, best known for his work Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World. With a background in environmental science and a passion for understanding human development, Epstein focuses on breaking down complex scientific ideas to help individuals make informed decisions about career growth and personal improvement. Listen to the full episode here! Spotify: ⁠https://g2ul0.app.link/fRsIsT7YhVb Apple: ⁠https://g2ul0.app.link/F6NbstsZhVb Watch the episodes on YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/%20TheDiaryOfACEO/videos⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

We've grown up surrounded by beauty ideals that promised confidence, but often delivered shame.

0:05.5

In a special episode of a millennial mind, I sat down with Nicola Adams to explore how

0:10.4

appearance-based compliments and body talk shape our self-worth without us realizing it.

0:15.9

In partnership with the Dove Self-Esteen project, we unpack the tools to change the conversation

0:20.6

for ourselves and for future generations. Listen now and download the... with the Dove Self-Eesteem Project, we unpack the tools to change the conversation for

0:21.1

ourselves and for future generations. Listen now and download the free body confidence journal

0:26.4

at Dove.com forward slash Y2K.

0:34.4

How do you summarize the work that you do and why you do it?

0:38.1

And who are you really doing it for?

0:40.3

I am obsessed with correcting what I view as mistranslations of scientific research about human development.

0:48.3

And so that is the core of my work.

0:50.7

And I think I'm doing it for everyone who is curious, but either doesn't have a

0:55.5

scientific background or doesn't have that particular scientific background. Curious, but interested

1:00.1

in self-improvement, but doesn't either have the time or the means to go sifting through

1:05.6

this evidence themselves. And what is the sort of realms of self-improvement that you have

1:09.7

focused on thus far in your career?

1:11.7

Well, earlier on I was focused in physical skill acquisition, like in athletics.

1:15.8

But increasingly, I've moved into career and personal development generally

1:20.2

and looking at that with a very, very kind of long lens.

1:24.4

Right. So one of the most important things to me, one of the most important

1:27.7

messages that I've been working on the last few years is the fact that sometimes optimizing

1:32.0

for short-term development will undermine your long-term development. So let's say if we're thinking

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