I've definitely grown up my whole life thinking that the way that you burn fat is by running.

I mean, this is what most people think, right?

They think, you want to burn fat around here, the belly fat?

The best way to do is go for a run.

And a lot of people have very little luck with that and end up beating themselves up.

So to close off on this conversation, I'd like to hear your take on that.

You need to think about fat loss in a broader approach than most people give it to.

When you say fat loss, let's get specific.

What we're meaning is we're losing fat, and ideally we're preserving muscle.

That's what we typically want.

We're also talking about losing fat so that it stays off as long as possible.

Those are baked into that phrase, but oftentimes forgot. So the advice I'm

going to give you is with those two assumptions in mind. You're trying to keep as much lean

as you can, and you're trying to make this a successful journey and not something you have to

repeat again, time and time. Totally, right? Yo-yo dieting. In fact, one of the more, probably the highest, most cited paper I've ever published was on yo-yo dieting, like a review article on that. So you can go read that. People love that paper. I was just a co-author. Jackson wrote that paper. So credit goes to Jackson for that. But making sure you're paying attention to

say, for those parameters in mind, how do I lose weight? You can look across meta-analyses

and review articles and you will see the number one predictor, a long-term successful weight loss,

and by weight loss, I mean fat loss, is always adherence.

It's adherence to your workout program, and it's adherence to your nutrition program.

So step number one, before we worry about any change in diet, we start arguing about which

method of exercise is best before we start really going way down the line

to things like genetic testing,

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