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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Most Replayed Moment: Neil deGrasse Tyson On The Future Of Humanity! Will We Ever Go To Mars?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

FlightStory

Business, Education, Society & Culture

4.517.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Neil deGrasse Tyson is an astrophysicist, author, and science communicator known for making the biggest questions in the universe feel human, funny, and deeply thought-provoking. In today’s moment, Neil dives into the unsettling possibility that our universe might be a simulation - and what that would mean for free will, meaning, AI, death, and humanity’s future in space. Listen to the full episode here! Spotify: https://g2ul0.app.link/ZlSXUS8gG2b Apple: https://g2ul0.app.link/Rt2MvjnhG2b Watch the Episodes On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/%20TheDiaryOfACEO/videos Neil’s Work: https://neildegrassetyson.com/

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0:00.0

One thing I've learned from interviewing a lot of founders and building companies myself is that

0:03.5

trust is the real currency of business. It's the thing that gets customers to buy, partners to say yes,

0:08.5

and investors to back you. But as you grow, trust stops being just a feeling and becomes something

0:13.2

you have to prove, because the bigger you get, the more exposed you are. Customer data,

0:17.4

security expectations, regulations, all of it. And the risk of one small mistake

0:21.1

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0:26.1

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0:57.0

I spend so long these days thinking and talking to people about what all of this means.

1:02.0

And I've got more and more, I saw you talking about the simulation theory once or twice.

1:06.5

And I started to fall into that whole of thinking.

1:10.2

Oh, yes.

1:18.4

It's, no, you got to, you know, step outside every now and that and, you know, smell the roses.

1:25.1

But you said you wouldn't be surprised if people found out the universe is simulated by some sort of advanced life form.

1:25.5

Yeah.

1:32.1

Given what we can now compute, throw in quantum computing on top of that, we don't have this power yet, but to make a world in our computer where the characters in that world

1:37.0

believe they have free will.

1:39.9

And then they conduct themselves, and then they invent computers, and then they make a world

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