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When we imagine depression, we often think of someone unable to get out of bed, someone who struggles to complete daily tasks.

However, many people with depression are the exact opposite.

They meet deadlines, achieve goals and appear successful.

Yet on the inside, they feel disconnected and distant from joy.

This quieter, harder to spot condition is called high functioning depression.

I'm joined by psychiatrist Dr Judith Joseph and Sarah Berry to unpack what high-functioning

depression looks like, why it's so frequently missed, and how we should approach it. Sarah starts by

asking for clarity on a word that is closely connected to this condition. Anhedonia, I have never

heard of that word. Could you explain what that means?

So it's actually a word that if you ask any nurse, any healthcare professional, they know what it is.

It's such an antiquated old medical word.

Okay. Had you heard of it, Jonathan?

No, no, go on.

I want to know. Have you heard of it?

No.

Most people haven't. That's okay.

It was really coined by a French

psychologist, I think he may have been a psychiatrist in the 1800s. And what he was seeing was this

lack of pleasure and interest in things in people who had substance abuse, and people who had

depression and people who had schizophrenia. And that's where you see a lot of anadonia.

You even see it in people with dementia. So, you know, older people who are going through that

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