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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Most Replayed Moment: Calories In, Calories Out Is A Myth! Why Most Diets Fail - Dr. Jason Fung

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

FlightStory

Society & Culture, Business, Education

4.613.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jason Fung is a leading Canadian nephrologist and expert in intermittent fasting and metabolic health. Known for his pioneering work on obesity, type 2 diabetes, and fasting-based interventions, he challenges conventional dieting approaches. In today’s Moment, Dr. Fung explores the hidden causes of obesity, why traditional diets fail, and how intermittent fasting can transform metabolic health. Listen to the full episode here! Spotify: https://g2ul0.app.link/w3wZJ0WrOXb Apple: https://g2ul0.app.link/PMOxllbsOXb Watch the episodes on YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/%20TheDiaryOfACEO/videos⁠ Jason Fung: https://www.youtube.com/@DrJasonFung

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0:00.0

In part two of your book, you say the calorie deception.

0:06.6

And you say there are five wrong assumptions about obesity and weight loss.

0:11.1

The calorie and calorie out are independent of each other, so won't trigger one another.

0:16.7

And this interesting point about the basal metabolic rate being stable.

0:20.7

Yeah.

0:21.1

Is that in essence because people, you know, people will often say I have a low metabolism.

0:25.4

It's kind of like a word in culture.

0:26.5

If someone is obese, often the diagnosis is they have a low metabolism.

0:32.6

Yeah.

0:32.9

Is there any merit in that?

0:33.9

Is that true?

0:34.6

Oh, absolutely.

0:35.5

The question, so when you think about, so body fat,

0:38.7

you think about the energy balance equation, body fat equals calories in minus calories out.

0:43.4

This often leads people to say, well, just eat 500 fewer calories and you'll lose a pound of fat per week.

0:49.7

It's unquestionably false because every single study that we've done over the last 50 years

0:57.6

shows that if you eat 500 fewer calories then over time depending on what foods you're eating

1:05.0

eventually your body will just burn 500 fewer calories so that's your basal metabolic rate

1:10.0

the number of calories that your

1:11.5

body is expending in one day. So we see this in almost every single study. We've known about it for like

1:18.9

80 years at least. You eat fewer calories. Your body burns fewer calories. Well, that's going to

1:25.5

limit how much weight you're going to lose, right? So this idea that just eat fewer calories. Well, that's going to limit how much weight you're going to lose, right?

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