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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Brené Brown: We're In A Spiritual Crisis! The Hidden Epidemic No One Wants To Admit!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

FlightStory

Society & Culture, Business, Education

4.613.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2025

⏱️ 111 minutes

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Summary

No.1 vulnerability expert BRENÉ BROWN exposes how shame, fear, and perfectionism secretly control your life - and reveals proven ways to unlock courage, confidence, trust, connection, and joy. Brené Brown is a world-renowned research professor who has spent over two decades studying courage, vulnerability, shame, and empathy. She is also the author of 6 #1 New York Times bestsellers, including her recently published book, ‘Strong Ground’, and hosts two award-winning podcasts on leadership and human connection. She explains:  ◼️The marble jar theory that changed how Fortune 100 companies build trust ◼️The 4 skill sets of courage you can train and measure ◼️Why fitting in is the greatest threat to true belonging ◼️How to identify your “armor” when you're afraid and drop it ◼️The gratitude practice that stops catastrophising in real-time (00:00) Intro (02:34) What Made Brené Who She Is? (07:23) Parents Affecting Your View of Love (10:48) 87 Human Emotions (11:50) Why Did Brené Struggle With Self-Love and Belonging? (15:36) How Has the World Changed in the Last Two Decades? (16:23) Is Power Driven by Fear? (19:51) Four Types of Power: How to Be Successful as a Leader (22:54) Systems Theory (26:48) The Role of AI and Social Media in Shaping Society (34:39) Wisdom From Psychology and Life Experience (41:26) What Type of Connection Should People Be Looking For? (44:34) Belonging vs. Standing Alone (47:43) Making a Divisive Podcast (54:07) Pros and Cons of Curiosity (54:50) Responsibility of a Platform to Assess Guest Credibility (1:03:34) Ads (1:04:32) Importance of Vulnerability (1:09:30) Managing Fear of Vulnerability (1:18:36) Overcoming Negative Traits (1:21:06) Improving Self-Esteem (1:25:43) Four Steps to Courage (1:27:44) Building Trust With the Marble Jar Theory (1:32:47) Leaders' Misconceptions of Trust (1:35:05) Cheating (1:36:03) Ads (1:38:11) Relationship Advice (1:41:42) Losing Your Mother to Dementia (1:45:27) How Did You Deal With Grief? (1:48:40) What Are You Optimizing for Right Now? Follow Brené: Website - https://bit.ly/47rISeb  LinkedIn - https://bit.ly/3Jq4T5i  Instagram - https://bit.ly/49rCLt0  You can purchase Brené’s book ‘Strong Ground’, here: http://bit.ly/47gIWyJ  You can listen to Dare to Lead podcast here: http://bit.ly/3WwlN56  The Diary Of A CEO: ◼️Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/  ◼️Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook  ◼️The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt  ◼️The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb  ◼️Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt  ◼️Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb  Sponsors: Shopify - https://shopify.com/bartlett   Pipedrive - http://pipedrive.com/CEO      Vanta - https://vanta.com/steven

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0:00.0

You are the single most requested guest.

0:03.0

And let me tell you, this has not been easy because we went to some hard places.

0:08.0

But I don't think we'll ever talk about anything more important than this.

0:11.0

Because it's not fear that gets in the way of us being brave with our lives and our work.

0:15.0

It's the armor that we reach for to self-protect when we're afraid.

0:19.0

And how that armor moves us away from love,

0:23.0

connection, and our values. And the hardest work is being aware of what is my armor when I'm

0:28.4

afraid. Is that automatic? Oh, no. It's a training. So let's start with that then.

0:33.1

Brené Brown is an icon whose world-leading research in shame, vulnerability, and connection has inspired

0:38.7

companies like Pixar, Google, and the U.S. special forces to build stronger leaders and

0:43.2

help the everyday person unlock their full potential.

0:46.9

Ready?

0:47.7

Is vulnerability important?

0:49.3

It is if we want to be brave with our lives.

0:51.3

But we were raised to believe that vulnerability is weakness.

0:53.4

Like in my family, we were allowed anger, but sad was not an option. You needed to be brave with our lives. But we were raised to believe that vulnerability is weakness. Like in my

0:54.2

family, we were allowed anger, but sad was not an option. You needed to be tough. So when I get scared,

1:00.0

when I feel anxious, disappointed, I'm just angry. And so when you're raised without vulnerability,

1:05.3

it'll put you in jeopardy. Like, you want to know what vulnerability is? Joy. Joy is so vulnerable

1:10.7

that people choose to live

1:12.7

disappointed rather than to get excited about something and risk getting sucker punched by disappointment.

1:18.3

Like, there is no courage without vulnerability, because courage is the willingness to show up and be

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