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Most countries fail at clean energy. Here’s how mine succeeded | Sebastián Kind

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Business Leadership Podcast, Modupe Akinola, Ted Modupe, Ted Business Podcast, Ted Talks, Business, Ted Talks Business

4.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Energy expert Sebastián Kind helped Argentina go from virtually no renewable energy to generating nearly 40 percent of its electricity from wind and solar in just six years, despite economic crises and skepticism. How did the country's transition off fossil fuels happen so quickly? He shows why the key breakthrough didn't hinge on technology or resources — and explains how other countries can follow the same path. After the talk, Modupe reflects on Sebastián roadmap for promoting renewable energy laws amid a polarized government.



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0:00.0

This podcast often features talks from speakers who explain that we need to make a systematic shift away from fossil fuels and towards renewable energy.

0:10.2

A lot of these speakers have very good plans on how to implement that vision.

0:14.5

But I often find myself wondering about what plans that lead to major change actually look like in practice.

0:21.7

So today, we're hearing from someone who was on the front lines when his country actually made this transition.

0:27.4

Argentina went from having almost no renewable energy to on some days generating nearly 40% of its electricity from wind and solar.

0:36.0

You might think this took decades.

0:38.0

You'd be wrong.

0:39.3

It took only six years.

0:41.7

How did they do it?

0:45.4

This is Ted Business, a podcast from TED.

0:48.7

Renewable Energy Pioneer Sebastian Kind has some takeaways from his home country's success.

0:54.7

In this talk, he explains how to convince countries to embrace renewable energy

0:59.0

by making it as convenient and economically beneficial to everyone as possible,

1:03.7

with an emphasis on long-term commitments and minimizing financial risk.

1:07.8

Then after the talk, I'll discuss what else we can learn from Sebastian's

1:11.9

experience. But first, a quick break. And now, Sebastian Kind takes the TED stage. In just six years,

1:27.0

Argentina, my beautiful home country, went from barely having renewable energy on its grid to one where on some days nearly

1:36.3

of its electricity comes from wind and solar. And this happened in a country globally recognized for its political and economic crisis,

1:46.9

home of a world-class oil and gas industry with the fourth largest shale oil reserve

1:53.7

and the second largest shale gas reserve in the world.

1:58.3

You might be wondering how was that possible, and how can we replicate this all over the world?

2:04.9

I'm going to tell you how. I spent my entire career making renewables a reality. I worked in the

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