Welcome back to Part 2 of Moses 1 and Abraham 3 with Dr. Philip Allred.

Phil, I hate to keep hitting this because there's so much we need to do, but just one more thing.

I think maybe even harder than suffering yourself is witnessing your children suffer.

Watching others suffer, and especially your children.

Can't this doctrine help me as I see a child facing something that is heartbreaking for them and for you?

Yeah, absolutely.

In our own circumstances, as everyone, we may all be, I suppose, different in the particulars, but like Paul said, all temptation taken you is common to man.

In 1st Corinthians 10, we're having a shared experience, even though maybe the details seem a little different.

As Jennifer and I have navigated this as we've watched our loved ones,

our children, our ancestors, those before us and after us, that we love and cherish,

to see the weight of mortal challenge and opportunity. That's really what we're shifting from is to speak of

these and conceive of these things as simply bad or hard, but rather to actually see them as

agency inviting opportunities, as Christ choosing chances of character-building crucibles.

Again, to think celestial is to flip the perspective on this as being so negative and so wrong

and so unequal or unfair instead to see, oh, this doctrine provides a vision for which, as you've said, oh, this is as

what Elder Orson F. Whitney said, no pain that we suffer, no trial that we experience is wasted,

but rather ministers to the development, our education, and the development of our qualities.

I'm just so grateful for that because, yes,

it does provide a way for those of us who aren't currently in a crucible

looking at others who are and to see meaning in it,

to see conversion and opportunity for Christ in it.

Yeah.

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