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🗓️ 17 November 2023
⏱️ 45 minutes
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The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Naveen Rao, founder of MosaicML, to talk about the efficiency of the human brain (3:30), slashing the cost to train AI models (8:00), how this is like the evolution of the car (11:40), selling to Databricks (14:30), how the AI market will evolve (17:00), the fallacy of AI doomerism (21:00), growing up in eastern Kentucky (22:30), plunging into the dotcom boom (24:50), why he studied neuroscience (27:10), selling his previous startup to Intel (32:00), solving intelligence (34:40), and what he tells his kids about the future (40:00).
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0:00.0 | Yo, technology. |
0:02.9 | What is it all about? |
0:04.5 | What we've really solved is human language. |
0:06.7 | That's huge. |
0:08.1 | For 50 years or 60 years of computer science, we couldn't even get close. |
0:12.1 | And now we can make things that are actually fluent in human language. |
0:15.8 | It's amazing. |
0:16.8 | And so what we can do with that is all kinds of new business cases where we can make things more efficient. |
0:22.6 | We can we can do more with fewer people with less resource. |
0:26.6 | And I think that's why the economics start to matter. |
0:47.5 | Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech. |
0:50.5 | This week, you're in for a treat. |
0:56.5 | On the program, we have Navine Rao. He's a serial entrepreneur who started working on AI way before it was cool. And you may have heard of him recently because in June, he sold his |
1:03.3 | two-year-old startup, Mosaic ML, to Databricks for $1.3 billion that is with a B, which is not bad going. Mosaic, which was developing |
1:14.1 | low-cost ways to build and train AI models, only had 55 employees. So quite the result. In any event, |
1:22.2 | I wanted to have Navine on because one of the really interesting aspects of the market right now |
1:26.5 | is that just how much it |
1:28.3 | costs to train these AI models. It means that in most cases only the very biggest or very |
1:33.1 | best funded companies can build these really big super capable models. And this, of course, is a big |
1:40.2 | obstacle for smaller developers and kind of the development of AI more broadly. |
1:45.6 | But what Mosaic showed is that you don't need tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. |
1:51.6 | You can really build powerful AIs for just a few hundred thousand. |
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