My name is is Bredo She, the host of Rev. left radio and co-host of

Gorilla History and Red Menace. Happy to be here.

I actually wanted to talk to you about Gorilla history. How did that start?

Yeah, no, it was it came out of nowhere. It was one of those opportunities that you

don't expect and just opens up and then you participate and you're very happy.

I was just out of nowhere reached out to by by Henry and my co-host Henry

Haka Maki and Aud-Nan Hussein had worked together on the David Feldman show

sort of progressive long form podcasts or like middle like seven hour episodes

and stuff and they do some hosting and they guess and they met each other

through that and then I guess they were both fans of Rev. left and they thought

it'd be really cool to have that voice sort of like less polished, less

academic you know that working class voice that I guess Rev left is known for.

So they reached out and said you know you'd be a good addition. Aud-Nan is the director of like

religious studies at Queen University and is a practicing Sufi Muslim and has all that expertise

and then Henry's an immunobiologist I think in grad school and he lives in Russia and has

some unique experiences and I come out of a philosophy background like you know us three together

we kind of interesting and so yeah and then they they have the academic inroad in a lot of ways

that I don't so they'll have like a lot of familiarity with like a book coming out and how to

reach out to them in a network that I'm not always tapped into so we get some guess that we otherwise

wouldn't have got and like Henry for example recently got the founder of the Communist Party of the

Philippines and to be able to talk to him and learn about the the communist struggle in the

Philippines firsthand from the the creator of the organization you know is absolutely fascinating.

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