One of the things you've got to understand about grand juries, especially in areas with

Donald Trump, I think I've got 4% of the vote, but putting all that aside, you got to

remember the defense never gets to talk to the grand jury.

You've heard the statement you can die to a ham sandwich.

There's a lot of truth to that actually.

And the reason that you have Mueller going after Manafort and this other guy's finances

is pretty basic and simple.

What do you know about Trump?

He tells about Trump, we're going to we're going to lessen your sentence.

But the grand jury, remember, their standard is is far much lower than that of beyond

a reasonable doubt.

And that is, you know, probably cause is not the standard that Paul Manafort is going

to face.

He plugged guilt innocent in the and the corporate seating today.

But you got to understand so his lawyers spoke today for the first time.

And he talked about what Paul Manafort was trying to do.

He said he was trying to seek to further democracy and help the UK come to the US and the

EU.

These activities ended in 2014 over two years before Manafort served ever in the Trump

campaign.

And he writes and he says that today, as you've seen in the indictment brought by the

office, the special counsel that is using a novel theory to prosecute Manafort regarding

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