You know what they'll say? Trump didn't look well. He was extremely wet. It's 104 or 5 degrees in his room, but we're okay with it, right?

Well, the thing is, I think he was actually making fun of the appearance of other people. Well, no, he was, you know, he was making fun of him. You have to wonder if the former president is feeling the heat.

I expected him to sing my way and like at the scarves wipe the sweat off his face and throw it into the room.

It's hard for me to, a special counsel, Jack Smith, turns up the temperature in federal court, amid the back and forth over the protective order in that case.

There's new reporting this morning. I think he's well. No, I mean, I'm sweating. No, I'm just saying I'm sweating that much. Do you think he's?

In a million different ways. I don't think he's. He's unhealthy. I mean, Marco Rubio didn't sweat that much.

Correct. Rhonda Sanders doesn't sweat that much. Anyhow. I would say that was a lot of sweat. Yes, new reporting on a secret memo that laid out the plot to overturn the 2020 election.

I'm going to go through that major development in just a moment. Meanwhile, we're getting a better idea of the timing for the next possible indictment for the former president.

By 2028. No, can she delay this any longer? Well, I think it's coming. 2028, maybe 2029. It could be his fourth indictment.

We'll talk about that and what the timing looks like now. Also ahead. More instability in the desantis campaign. We'll tell you about the latest shakeup for the Florida governor in his 2024.

The shakeup is going to be dramatic as we look at these pictures of DeSantis. Where it is? He may stop zipping the vest up three quarters of the way. Yeah. Good morning and welcome to morning Joe.

He's a vest in the summer. I don't know. 800 degrees. There's so much news. And I guess that's how we survive is laughing once in a while. It is Wednesday.

Why are you guys wearing a vest when it's like 800 degrees outside? It's Wednesday, August 9th. And I guess I should say it's only Wednesday.

I guess we have the host of way too early. White House bureau chief at Politico, Jonathan Lamire, looking very good this morning.

Dapper US special correspondent for BBC News, caddy K, always elegant and White House editor for Politico Sam's time.

So sure. Sam's here. All right. I tell you, this is this issue.

This abortion issue is is turning into a remarkably politically potent issue for people who want a return to.

Well, where the United States was for about 50 years where women had a right to make health care decisions and make choices about their own bodies.

We've seen in Kansas. We've seen in Kentucky. We've seen in one red state after another.

We saw on a Supreme Court race in Wisconsin landslide victories all because Republicans are taking extremist views.

And we saw last night in a state that has gone deep red Ohio.

Yes, voters overwhelmingly rejected a Republican-backed measure that would have made it more difficult to change the state's constitution.

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