In the summer of 1941, Churchill crossed the Atlantic to meet his good friend Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

From these two men who so well understood the moral force of ideals emerged, the Atlantic Charter.

This document blueprinted for all the world, the fundamental freedoms to which the two great

English-speaking nations pledge themselves as their goal in war and peace.

Eighty years after Roosevelt and Churchill signed the Atlantic Charter, President Biden,

and Prime Minister Boris Johnson today will sign a 21st century version of that historic accord.

Joe.

Yeah, and Willie, you know, it's so interesting over the past four and a half years, past five years,

we've been talking about that Atlantic charter.

We've been talking about NATO.

We've been talking about how it's been fraying at the edges.

And some among us, some among us, I'm not naming anybody, Willie, have suggested that perhaps

America will never survive, that our relationships will be forever frayed because of the 45th

president of the United States. And who knows, maybe that's true.

I suspect it's not. But it is interesting. We get to, we certainly got to see Donald Trump's

view of the world, which was unique for any post-war president. Now we're going to get to see Joe Biden's follow up to see if there

is damage with this relationship and how he can clean it up. Yeah, first of all, I wish John

Meacham were here talking about the Atlantic Charter, his book Franklin and Winston, about their

friendship. That was signed before America even got into World War II, actually,

a few months before Pearl Harbor. So that's such an interesting dynamic between those two guys.

And of course, the two countries, and President Biden has explicitly said, yes, this trip is about

repairing some of that damage. This trip is about the President of the United States going back

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