Your initial allegations, you still believe them to be true?

Yeah, well, of course they'll sue me again for it when I say that, but yeah, I do.

But they want me to lie.

They basically, they are suing me in order to lie to them.

I'm sorry I can't do it and the most important thing is it doesn't have to be

absolutely true has to be supportable. They have to prove that I was deliberately lying, which I wasn't.

You know, what, so it's so fascinating about what he just did there.

Yeah, that was a good stuff.

It's a good stuff. It's as if he read David French's column yesterday in the New York Times talking about Magaman and what it takes to be a magga man. And he mentioned Rudy Giuliani as the prime example,

but listed Mark Meadows, Cary Lake, listed a number of other people who may have all done different things in the past,

may have all had different backgrounds, different political ideologies, but said the key was once they became

infected by Trump, there were two things you had to do and again David French wrote this before

Rudy went on and lied again last night. You say number one you have to lie.

The key is if you're going to follow Donald Trump, if you're going to be a part of Donald Trump's team, you've got to be a liar.

You've got to bend reality to whatever Donald Trump says it's going to be and then the second thing is and he did it there

Which is so funny you just walks right into it. He doesn't there just like Donald Trump, just like the rest of him. You have to be

loud and angry and defiant. It's not enough to just lie.

Delusionally defined. No, not delusional.

not delusional people not delusional because that suggests right because that suggests right that they're a sort of a sense of confusion.

As David French said yesterday in the New York Times in his op-ed,

he knows exactly what he's doing.

Rudy Giuliani knows exactly what he's doing. Rudy Giuliani knows exactly what he's doing.

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