Welcome everybody to another episode of Mormonism live. I'm Bill Real. I'm joined by Radio Free Mormon. It is the 6th of August 2025.

Tonight we're going to talk about an instance where Joseph Smith loses face. Now, he, I don't mean he loses face, although I do. I do mean he loses face the way that term is usually meant, but he does so by causing

another character to lose face.

And so we'll jump into that.

RFM, anything.

It's like a pun.

A little bit of a pun.

A double-on-pon-pon.

Anything from you, my friend, we just had a fun time at sunstone uh i do want to say a special

thanks out to the mad king theater uh to amanda gardner for uh setting up uh our visit in on

saturday night so like uh at the venue that we had and mad King for the Monday night at the Mad King

Theater there for the live showing of the Mormon newscast and lots of fun at Sunstone as

well. We had a really busy week. Anything from you? No, no, no, no, no. But of course, whenever

I say no, I mean, yes. So yes, I just flew back from Salt Lake City and boy, are my arms tired.

I came down with something there, and I think it was the valley.

And I am a creature of sea level and of moderate temperatures,

and to be suddenly thrust into a skillet which is what i conceive of as the the salt lake valley a skillet full of smog which is much higher much

less as far as oxygen goes 100 degrees and just fry me up and you know serve me because i was done yeah salt

lake city's air quality is never good uh the whole the whole valley as you put it was not uh not great

there were mountains you could barely see the outline of yes small i mean that's what it's you know

firm as the mountains around us that you can't

really even see from some places during the day because the smog is so intense. It looks like

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