4.4 • 13.2K Ratings
🗓️ 30 May 2025
⏱️ 11 minutes
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A viral TikTok divorce. A hit reality show. And a culture that’s glamorizing “soft swinging” and open marriage. Dr. Phil digs into The Real Story behind HULU’s The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives — and the dangerous cultural shift it reveals. What used to be private, sacred, and stabilizing is now public, performative, and disposable. From consensual non-monogamy to “tradwife” rebranding, this isn’t just entertainment — it’s a warning. Because if marriage loses its meaning, what do we pass on to the next generation?
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0:00.0 | You know, after two decades of daytime television, I think I've about heard it all when it comes to marriage, infidelity, and intimacy. |
0:08.7 | But there's a culture shift going on that's very disturbing. |
0:13.6 | So let's go behind the headlines and get the real story. |
0:17.4 | So here are a few headlines to consider. |
0:19.3 | Can the secret lives of Mormon wives change a conservative religious culture? |
0:25.5 | What is a soft swap? |
0:28.2 | How secret lives of Mormon wives sheds light on a surprising relationship trend. |
0:34.9 | The secret lives of Mormon wives brings the dark side of tradwife culture to light. |
0:42.9 | Now, on the surface, this is tabloid fodder, which has little place on the real story. |
0:49.3 | But there's something beneath the surface that needs to be addressed. So let's talk about the background here a little bit. |
0:56.2 | The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is a reality television series that premiered on Hulu in September |
1:04.1 | of last year. It became Hulu's most watched unscripted season premiere of the year. |
1:12.6 | It stars a group of Mormon mom influencers, collectively known as hashtag mom talk. |
1:21.1 | Mom talk has gotten to a really hostile point. |
1:23.9 | I truly view Taylor as a liability. |
1:27.2 | What sparked the show? Well, one of the moms, Taylor as a liability. What sparked the show? |
1:28.5 | Well, one of the moms, Taylor Frankie Paul, announced getting a divorce by a TikTok. |
1:36.8 | Live. |
1:37.6 | Regardless, Tate and I are getting divorced. |
1:41.1 | We played with fire and we got burnt. |
1:43.1 | She disclosed that she and her husband, Tate Paul, had been engaged in soft swinging. |
1:52.0 | She said, all of my dirty secrets are out and I have nothing to hide anymore. |
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