The Thank you, thank you, everybody.

And how are you doing, Mr. Real? Doing great radio free Mormon. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Good evening. And how are you doing, Mr. Real?

You're doing great radio free Mormon. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you. I'm fine. And welcome everybody to another episode of Mormonism live. It's episode 197. And it is titled. Let's see. What did we finally come up with for a title on this? I know it went through a few permutations, Bill.

That's a great question let me uh let me pull up the youtube studio super regardless of the title we're breaking

down we're breaking down the debate between stick of joseph brothers paul no no that's the last

name paidon jacson paul okay it is and gonzol and herrardo from a week ago today in fact others, Paul, no, no, that's the last name, Paul. Hayden and Jackson, Paul. Okay, and

Don DeLan and Herardo from a week ago today. In fact, a week ago today at this very time, it was

still going on because it went at least half an hour into our showtime. Not that you notice,

but it is called Mormon Stories and the Stick of Joseph. So it is the conversation between Mormon stories and the

stick of Joseph, which represents John and Herardo on one side and the Paul brothers on the other.

Yeah, so I've been vaguely aware of the existence and the YouTube channel of these two guys,

the Paul brothers. I like to call them the Paul bearers, because that's kind of a cool

nickname, the Paul bearers. And if you look at them, their names are Hayden and Jackson.

It's been hard for me to keep track of who's who, but it's helpful to me to remember,

Hayden is the guy with the brunette. He's the brunette. Hayden is the one with the dark hair.

He did most of the talking in this discussion,

which was five hours and 47 minutes long, Bill. It was almost six hours long. No wonder it went

into Mormonism life. And the other guy is Jackson, Paul. He's the blonde. He's the one who looks

a little bit like a psychopathic kindol sometimes when he's speaking.

He just looks like he has that, you know, that murderous look in his, in his eyes.

If he could get over there to John DeLinn with something sharp, boy, he would show him what's what.

So that's that.

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