You're going to see. And then. Thank you.

Thank you, everybody. Good evening and how are you doing Mr. Reel?

You're doing great radio free moment. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you. I'm fine. And welcome everybody to another episode of Mormonism live.

It's episode 197 and it is titled, let's see, what did we finally come up with for a title

on this?

I know it went through a few permutations, Bill.

That's a great question. Let me pull up the YouTube studio.

Super quick. We're breaking down, we're breaking down the debate between Stick of Joseph brothers Paul no no that's the last name Paul Hayden and Jackson Paul

Okay, it is in a Toronto from a week ago today in fact and Hararer

Paul, in Conglen and Harardo from a week ago today.

In fact, a week ago today at this very time it was still going on because it went at

least half an hour into our showtime.

Not that you notice, but it is called Mormon Stories and the Stick of Joseph.

So it is the conversation between Mormon stories and the Stick of Joseph, which represents

John and Harardo on one side and the Paul brothers on the other.

Yeah, so I've been vaguely aware of the existence and the YouTube channel of these two guys, the Paul Brothers.

I like to call them the Paul Bearers,

because that's kind of a cool nickname, the Paul Bearers.

And if you look at them, their names are Hayden and Jackson.

It's been hard for me to keep track of who's who, but it's helpful to me to remember Hayden is the guy with the

Bruno, he's the brunette. Hayden is the one with the dark hair. He did most of the talking in this

discussion, which was five hours and 47 minutes long bill was almost six hours long no wonder

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