Mormon Sealings & Nate Oman w/ Bryan Buchanan - LDS Discussions Pt. 74 | Ep. 2156
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
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šļø 3 June 2026
ā±ļø 200 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we expand on ideas presented by Nate Oman during a discussion on Faith Matters and trace the complicated, evolving history of Mormon sealings from Joseph Smith through the 20th century.
Today, āeternal familiesā are often presented as the central purpose of temple sealings in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But historically, the story is much messier.
In this conversation, we explore how early sealings were not originally centered on the modern concept of nuclear families being together forever. Instead, sealing theology developed gradually during the Nauvoo period and often functioned as a way to create dynastic networks, priesthood connections, and systems of authority āwhat some critics compare to an MLM-style hierarchy of spiritual relationships.Ā
We discuss the evolution of sealing theology from Joseph Smith to Brigham Young, baptisms for the dead and the trauma surrounding Alvin Smithās death, the rise of dynastic sealings and the āLaw of Adoptionā where men were sealed to other men. We also discuss the relationship between sealings and plural marriage, how the sealing language changed over time, why Joseph Smith never initially sealed himself to Emma, the story of Jane Manning James and how she was āattachedā to Joseph Smith instead of sealed. We also discuss the racial restrictions for Black Mormons, questions of informed consent, authority, and prophetic consistency, and whether the modern LDS concept of āforever familiesā would have been recognizable to Joseph Smith himself.Ā
We also examine how doctrines once treated as essential and eternal āincluding the Law of Adoption āwere later abandoned entirely, raising larger questions about revelation, institutional change, and the development of Mormon theology.Ā
Whether youāre believing, questioning, post-Mormon, or simply interested in religious history, this episode offers a deep dive into one of the most controversial and misunderstood developments in Mormon history.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon stories podcast. I am not your host for today, John DeLyn. It is May 26th, 2026. And today we have another LDS discussions episode that we're excited to bring to you. And we're going to be talking about the messiness of Mormon temple ceilings. |
| 0:22.6 | I am so excited that we have all the way from the UK traveling here to be with this in studio again |
| 0:29.6 | as part of the regular LDS discussions team, the Nemo the Mormon. |
| 0:35.6 | Hey, Nemo, everyone. |
| 0:36.6 | How's the guy? And for the first time to |
| 0:39.5 | help us become more, I don't know, self-sufficient and diverse in the Mormon stories |
| 0:46.8 | leadership catalog. We have Nemo running the cameras. So Nemo, you're learning how to run |
| 0:54.0 | Mormon Story Studios. |
| 0:56.1 | What's that like for you? |
| 0:57.2 | That is very difficult. |
| 0:58.9 | You'll notice there's some lag. |
| 1:00.4 | I don't know how John does it, but we'll see how it goes. |
| 1:03.8 | All right. |
| 1:04.3 | So Nemo's running the cameras. |
| 1:05.7 | And we have Julia Remote, who is assisting us from Zion, old Zion, old Zion, old Zion. |
| 1:14.9 | Yeah, you old Zion. |
| 1:16.9 | No, yeah. |
| 1:18.5 | Julia, thanks for joining us today. |
| 1:20.4 | Yeah, of course. |
| 1:21.4 | And of course, we're so excited to have back on Mormon Stories podcast, |
| 1:26.5 | the Brian Buchanan of Benchmark Books and of the Sunstone |
| 1:31.7 | history podcast. Hey, Brian? |
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