G-I-R-L-S-C-A-N-P-S-K-E-N-P-S-K-K-E-N-P-S-K-K-E-N-E-N-K-L-E-L-E-L-E-L-E-S-F-E-E-L-S-F-E-E-L-S-F-E-E-S-F-E-E-S-F-E-E-L-S-F-E-E-S to be joined today by Alyssa Grengthell. Hello. Welcome, Alyssa.

Alyssa's face is probably familiar to anyone interested in Mormonism, ex-Mormonism.

Alyssa is a YouTuber and content creator who does deep dives into LDS culture, doctrine,

lifestyle.

And she's also an author, author of the book How to Leave the Mormon Church, which is a guide for people navigating faith crisis and transition out of the Mormon church.

So you are just the woman to talk to about today's topic.

Yeah, definitely, actually.

I was texting you. We're talking about Mormon rules today, how heavy Mormonism tends to be on rules, the changing of rules, what the rules say about Mormonism and Mormon culture. And I was texting you like topic ideas. And you're like, well, the Mormon rules one I could probably do in my sleep. I'm like, yes, you absolutely could. And I'm excited to talk to you about this,

because it's hard to keep up, honestly. As I was compiling, I just have an outline of just like

rules that we're going to talk about. And I was like, you know, making sure I was up to date.

And things have changed that I didn't even realize. Oh, man realize have changed. And not like gigantic things,

but I just feel like the church is tweaking things all the time, which is interesting in and of

itself. So we're going to get into all of that. I also wanted to say, before we dive in,

if you want to know more about Alyssa, of course I will link all the places you can find so much good content from Melissa herself. You've also come on Girls Camp and we've done more of a like deep dive into your life and story. So I will link that. But I do want to ask you before we dig into the specific Mormon rules, what kind of Mormon rule follower were you? I was probably the worst kind of,

well, now, I was so good at following the rules that I was the worst person to be around.

Yeah, there you go. Because I was insufferable. And I mean, I was always the type to like have the little for the strength of youth pamphlet carefully annotated and underlined.

And like any time on, you know, really throughout my life, if there was ever like a question like, can we do this?

Can we do that?

I was like constantly Googling things and reading through some random thread online to like what's the

consensus on this and I really wanted to follow the rules. Where do you feel like that came from

for you? You know, I think I always just felt like following the rules was the way to know I was a good

person. And if I was not following the rules to a T,

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