Mormon Dad Believes, Daughter Doesn't - Katie & Matt Todd | Ep. 2116
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 ā¢ 5.7K Ratings
šļø 23 February 2026
ā±ļø 128 minutes
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Summary
What happens when a devoted Mormon father and his daughter āwho no longer believes āsit down for an honest, loving conversation?
In this powerful "bridgebuilding" episode, Matt and Katie Todd share their story of faith, doubt, and family. Matt is a lifelong Latter-day Saint. Katie began questioning the Church while attending American Heritage School in Utah County āright across from the Timpanogos Temple āand eventually lost her faith as a teenager.
They talk about growing up in Utah County as a Mormon, reading church history and the CES Letter (during class!), controversial topics āsuch as polygamy, the priesthood and temple ban, and the Book of Abraham. They also talk about what itās like to lose your testimony as a teenager, the fear that parents feel when their kids leave the church, and how unconditional love can survive even in the face of deep disagreement.
This episode isnāt about winning arguments. Itās about trust, conscience, empathy, and learning how families can stay connected even when beliefs change.
Whether youāre a believer, a former believer, or somewhere in between, this conversation offers a rare and hopeful model for how to disagree without rejecting each other.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon stories podcast. I'm your host John DeLyn. It is February 7th, |
| 0:05.7 | 2026. And today we have a super exciting interview. We are interviewing a father and his daughter, |
| 0:14.6 | both raised LDS. And the hook or the topic for today is what happens when an adult child or a Mormon teen slash Mormon young adult decides to leave the church. |
| 0:29.3 | What's that like for a parent? |
| 0:31.1 | What's that like for the teen slash adult child? |
| 0:34.9 | And how do they navigate it gracefully and skillfully, probably with some mistakes |
| 0:41.4 | such that in the end, maybe their relationship is even strengthened by that entire process. |
| 0:49.6 | Definitely not ruined. |
| 0:50.8 | And that is what we're going to be covering today. |
| 0:53.7 | It's part of this bridge building |
| 0:55.1 | theme that we've been trying to build on for the past year. So where we want to interview |
| 1:01.4 | believing Mormons, active Mormons, faithful Mormons, and make sure that we're not just |
| 1:06.5 | focusing on ex-Mormons and deconstruction, but instead are providing you content that helps |
| 1:12.3 | build bridges, that helps unite families, heal relationships, and that can bring our families |
| 1:19.9 | and our communities together instead of more polarization and divisiveness. Please subscribe to this channel if you find this content |
| 1:30.0 | valuable. We're like 3,000 away from hitting our 300,000 mark on YouTube. It would be |
| 1:36.2 | really helpful to reach that 300,000 mark, not just for the algorithms, but because it helps |
| 1:41.0 | other people want to come on the show when we have 300,000 |
| 1:45.3 | subscribers. And it'll let you know when new episodes are coming out. So please subscribe. Thanks |
| 1:50.8 | to our donors for making all this possible. And without any further ado, I want to welcome |
| 1:56.6 | to Mormon Stories podcast. Matt Todd. Hey, Matt. Hello. Thanks for coming. My pleasure to be here. |
| 2:03.4 | I assume you're the dad. I'm the dad. Okay. And joining us also is Katie Todd. I guess you're the |
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