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Morgan Stanley's 10-Year Bet on the Future of Finance

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🗓️ 3 June 2026

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

$7 trillion goes digital. Amy Oldenburg, Morgan Stanley's Head of Digital Asset Strategy, breaks down how one of the world's largest wealth platforms is going all-in on crypto, from a Bitcoin ETF that crossed $200 million in just three weeks to spot crypto trading coming to their full advisory platform later this year. On the mainstage at CoinDesk’s Consensus, she makes the case that the TradFi vs. DeFi battle is over, and it's all just finance now. - Timecodes: 00:00 - Amy Oldenburg at Consensus Miami 2026 00:47 - Morgan Stanley's Digital Asset Strategy 01:52 - The Bitcoin ETP Hits $200M in Three Weeks 05:21 - Morgan Stanley's Early Lead in Crypto Access 08:38 - Advisor Education When Clients Know More Than the Advisors 10:38 - What Comes Next: Tokenization and Redemptions 12:35 - The DeFi vs TradFi Battle 13:43 - A Decade-Long Project, Not a 2026 Project

Transcript

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0:00.0

We're not tokenizing for the sake of tokenizing.

0:02.5

That is not the goal.

0:03.7

There's lots more to come beyond just the tokenization of assets.

0:07.7

And that's something we'll be doing for quite a while.

0:10.1

This isn't a 2026 project or 2027 project.

0:13.6

This is the next decade.

0:20.3

You need no introduction. I've said Amy's the bell of the ball. She is, you know...

0:25.6

I forgot to wear my prom dress. Yeah, exactly. So Morgan Stanley has really jumped in the deep end of the digital asset pool. I think most recently everyone's been talking about the Bitcoin

0:39.8

ETF that you guys have launched, which by the way is like three

0:42.3

weeks old and has over 200 million assets,

0:44.5

which is absolutely amazing.

0:45.5

Congratulations.

0:46.5

Thank you.

0:47.4

But what you guys are doing is much more than just an

0:50.6

an ETF in market.

0:51.5

So walk me through a little bit about the thinking

0:53.6

and the strategy associated with Morgan Stanley's digital asset aspirations. Yeah, and maybe like stepping back a little

1:00.0

bit. I think everyone feels that, you know, we just started this journey within the last few months,

1:07.9

but this has really been years in the making that we've been working on a lot of this down quietly in different parts of the business. The regulatory landscape

1:15.6

has changed and allowed us to come out more publicly with some of our market activities.

1:22.6

And I think the really interesting thing to talk about, too, it's not just our wealth business,

1:29.1

it's not just the ETPs.

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